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Firefighter Information
« on: February 25, 2010, 10:58:08 AM »
I am composing a letter to the editor for the Linn County News.  I have an opinion, and will be posting drafts of my letter here.

I am looking for facts to include.  All comments will be welcome.

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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2010, 11:33:55 AM »
On January 3rd, 2000:
"Marty Read motioned to approve an emergency vehicle permit for Larry Thompson, Centerville Fire Department. Herb Pemberton seconded the motion. The motion passed 2-0."

http://www.linncountyks.com/html/Commission/Minutes/Comm2000.pdf

If it "disappears", it may reappear here somewhere... like videos and things tend to do.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2010, 11:43:01 AM »
Dad was one of the only first responders in the county, one of the first as well. He's been trained in MANY aspects of fire fighting,  Haz-Mat, and other things important for people to continue living and breathing. I remember when he got the permit, it was meant to cut down on response time so he didn't have to go to Centerville to get a truck with all the necessary blinky lights (unless he was the ONLY one responding) and then head to the fire. He could go straight there and begin saving lives and doing important things. If Linn County keeps f'ing with people that do things like this, soon there will be nobody to show up when you're in need. Maybe God will be in the life saving mood that day.

Here's a clip from that PDF: "Larry Thompson and Diane Van Kirk, Fire Coordinator met with the commission to discuss the response time of the ambulance service to the west side of the county. Thompson would like for the commission to let the Fire Department set up a protocol to allow Fire Department employees to take first responder training and use that training in emergency services. The Commission agreed to have Medical Director Dr. Hunt set up a protocol for first responders and also to research grant money to purchase an A.E.D. machine for use by first responders also for Van Kirk to get cost of liability insurance for first responders."

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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 12:10:24 PM »
Thank you Dave.  Will be studying late into the night.

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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2010, 11:38:36 AM »
I split the topic here, was going more into speeding cops. There was a mention of the red light, to read more, go here: http://www.linncoweb.net/forum/index.php?topic=70.0
I can't remember the guys name, Simpson maybe, that wrote into the paper and stated that he and some others were ran off the road by Garnder as he was running fast with only his rear deck lights on.  He made a complaint to the sheriffs office and was told that he was responding to an emergency at the sheriffs office.  I think he was ignored beyond that.  Maybe this will help. 

Get a copy of the red light permit and see if it states when it has to be renewed, and if it states a siren has to be used.
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 10:42:17 AM »
Glenda had a college ceremony to attend for a child yesterday.  Will probably be here till Ashley tosses me out.

No Glenda today? Hope she's not sick! (or banned from the library)

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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2010, 11:58:22 AM »
Dave likes when Glenda refers to herself in the 3rd person =)

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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2010, 11:00:50 PM »
Maybe you could get Cartman to answer a few questions.  I'm sure he will say this is an ongoing investigation and he can not comment on it.  Ask him why he didn't wait until the accident was over with and everyone was gone except for the fire chief, the firefighter, and him.  It sounds like he wanted to cause a scene.  Why would you go up and start something like this while a firefighter was doing his job?  Ask him how he came up with the idea to ask about the red light permit.  Ask him who put him up to it?  Ask him how he manages to keep his job?   Ask him if he ever crashes through walls and says, "Kool-Aide,  Oh Yeah!".  Fat ass bastard.

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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2010, 11:15:06 PM »
I am looking for facts to include.  All comments will be welcome.
Remember Glenda, you DID ask for this! LOL

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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2010, 11:16:24 PM »
Maybe you could get Cartman to answer a few questions.  I'm sure he will say this is an ongoing investigation and he can not comment on it.
I am curious too, probably will just say "ohhh yeah!" and bust through a wall

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 03:33:45 PM »
Ohhh  yeah!       I liked this one.  Nice facts.

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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 10:21:49 AM »
Thanks guys for all the info.  If I included some of the "facts" suggested, the letter wouldn't get printed.  I have about three letters in drafts at the moment.

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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2010, 10:45:36 AM »
I have my final letter completed and awaiting Larry's approval before emailing it to the paper.  It won't make it into the paper this week.  I will post it here as soon as Larry OK's it.

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Re: Firefighter Information
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2010, 11:00:12 AM »
Here is the letter:

Linn County News

Letter to the Editor

Dear Editor:

On February 1, 2010, I was sitting at home listening to my scanner.  A call came in for emergency response near Centerville.  A female had lost control of her vehicle and slipped off the road.  She was unable to exit her car and it was still sliding.  Injuries were unknown.       

Days later, I was informed that the firefighter and first responder Larry Thompson was handcuffed and ticketed by a Sheriffs officer.  This happened in plain sight of the victim and other volunteer firefighters before the accident scene was cleared.  Where is the common sense in this? 

Time was of the essence in this accident and response time was quicker by Mr. Thompson's ability to respond with his personally owned vehicle.

I do not have personal knowledge of all the tickets issued.  The Sherrif Deputy demanded proof of an Emergency Vehicle Permit as the firefighters personally owned vehicle displayed a red light with no siren at the scene.

A portion of Kansas State Statue 8-2010 states:  "The designation shall be in writing and the written designation shall be carried in the vehicle at all times, but failure to carry the written designation shall not affect the status of the vehicle as an authorized emergency vehicle."

These past few weeks, I have heard many rumors and hearsay from those that were not present at the scene.  The following, with thanks to those that helped, are a few facts.

It is a fact that Larry Thompson had been legally issued an emergency vehicle permit.  A portion of the Linn County Commissioners Minutes meeting of June 5, 2000, copy and pasted reads:  "Marty Read motioned to approve an emergency vehicle permit for Larry Thompson, Centerville Fire Department. Herb Pemberton seconded the motion. The motion passed 2-0."

It is a fact that state law, 8-2010a, authorizes the County Commissioners to have the authority of issue such permit and that privately owned vehicles of firefighters or volunteer firefighters qualify.

8-2010a
Chapter 8.--AUTOMOBILES AND OTHER VEHICLES
Article 20.--UNIFORM ACT REGULATING TRAFFIC; POWERS OF STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES

There is no expiration date placed within this law as long as the ownership of the vehicle remains unchanged, and the use of the vehicle for authorized emergency use does not change.  This was the case until after this incident, when Mr. Thompson left his fire gear at the scene after being handcuffed and issued tickets.

There is also the possibility that the Sheriff Deputy that interrupted the fire scene on this occasion could possibly be culpable, as it is unlawful to interfer with a firefighter while engaged in the performance of his duties.   

21-3416
Chapter 21.--CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
PART II.--PROHIBITED CONDUCT
Article 34.--CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS

You can find the statue's mention in completion at: http://www.kslegislature.org/legsrv-statutes/index.do

Larry Thompson has pled innocent and his court date is set for March 29, 2000 and all the facts will be presented.

Glenda J. Findley

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Re: Firefighter Information
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2010, 10:31:58 AM »
Received notification that my letter would not be printed as there are two sides to every story and that this past Monday, this topic was discussed.  That there would be an article in today's issue. 

"Mental note to Glenda to pick up a current Linn County News."

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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2010, 06:38:31 PM »
The owner is Jackie Taylor. Now, I can't remember his name, but she did marry a deputy I think. He is a lot older than her. Definitely not Walker tho.

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2010, 07:00:00 PM »
Definitely not Walker tho.
http://www.ksdp.org/node/5417
"In 2000, we sold both newspapers and purchased the Linn County News."

I also see where Jackie is the owner as well.

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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2010, 12:18:49 AM »
Definitely not Walker tho.
http://www.ksdp.org/node/5417
"In 2000, we sold both newspapers and purchased the Linn County News."

I also see where Jackie is the owner as well.

Interesting link. I think if you read a little further, it indicates how he got rid of Linn County News by saying, "In 2005, I sold Walker Publishing." I think LCN was probably rolled up with other companies in the publishing arena.

I must say, you definitely know of some interesting links to these Linn County people.

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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2010, 10:43:18 AM »
I like the owner Jackie Taylor and Brad, the editor.  Rumor has it that the paper went to Jackie in the divorce settlement. There is new fuel for a letter on this topic and I don't give up that easily.  Bottom of front page of this weeks issue has an interesting article, and a must read is the weekly report of our Monday's County Commission Meeting.

 

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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2010, 06:14:06 PM »
I noticed not all the facts made it into the letter.  Maybe they would have printed it if more of these other facts were included.  I thought the Kool Aid cartoon was a nice touch.  Yes, I'm joking.  Great letter.  Maybe Osawatomie will print it.

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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2010, 10:40:55 AM »
Actually, I think the letter would have gotten printed if it had already gone through the courts.  Will rewrite it after the 29th unless they drop the case.

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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2010, 10:54:42 AM »
I'm glad you were able to post it here at least. If you would like, I can post it on linncountykansas.net too. It's up to you. Maybe I'll just add a link from there to this thread.

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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2010, 10:57:07 AM »
You sure can.  It isn't copyrighted and I'm aware that anything written on a public forum is open to being reposted, as long as the writer is given credit.  We all know who I am

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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2010, 11:07:52 AM »
I too am a stickler for a "paper trail"

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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2010, 11:15:05 AM »
Hehe...now where have I heard that before.  lol

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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2010, 01:28:58 PM »
I hope this goes to a jury trail.  Can Cartman even fit in the witness stand? 

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Re: Firefighter Information
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2010, 10:52:32 AM »
Does anyone know the history on the county fire coordinator?  He is a very angry person

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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2010, 10:56:41 AM »
Haven't had any dealings with him...I do know that last Friday there was a lot of equipment failure. 

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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2010, 09:27:18 PM »
Equipment failure?  You mean Cartman didn't show up and arrest all the firefighters?  They might have been able to use him to bust through a wall and serve Kool Aid.

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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2010, 01:07:10 AM »
Equipment failure?  You mean Cartman didn't show up and arrest all the firefighters?  They might have been able to use him to bust through a wall and serve Kool Aid.
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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2010, 10:46:45 AM »
Equipment failure?  You mean Cartman didn't show up and arrest all the firefighters?  They might have been able to use him to bust through a wall and serve Kool Aid.
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Haven't heard anything new.  I am awaiting the dropping of charges.  If that doesn't happen than I am going to try to write a good letter after court.

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« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2010, 11:10:37 AM »
They better not drop it! I want to see this in trial! I think dad has the right to appeal the dropping of charges and ask for a jury trial. I really hope Judge Smith says "yep, okay, trial it is!". Are you watching this forum, Judge?

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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2010, 01:00:45 AM »
They better not drop it! I want to see this in trial! I think dad has the right to appeal the dropping of charges and ask for a jury trial. I really hope Judge Smith says "yep, okay, trial it is!". Are you watching this forum, Judge?

The firefighter that was harassed by the deputy was your father? If that is true, then I can understand some of the negativity towards the sheriff's department now!

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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2010, 09:25:44 AM »
The firefighter that was harassed by the deputy was your father? If that is true, then I can understand some of the negativity towards the sheriff's department now!
yes and... yes.

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« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2010, 02:25:30 PM »
The firefighter that was harassed by the deputy was your father? If that is true, then I can understand some of the negativity towards the sheriff's department now!
yes and... yes.

Sorry to hear that. I do know that other law enforcement individuals are you your father's side in this case. They agree it was handled very badly. We are not down this way except for every weekend, but I would love to see what happens in this case.

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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2010, 08:23:20 PM »
I would really like to thank everybody for their support in my dad's defense. He reads the forum too and also would like to express his thanks. I'm glad to know there are good people out there who know the difference between right and wrong.

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« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2010, 09:32:34 PM »
This is still one of my favorite topics.  I liked all the "facts" that was listed here. 

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« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2010, 11:34:57 AM »
I started working on my new letter last night.  Charges were dismissed yesterday.  Falsely accused and financially screwed.

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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2010, 09:51:26 AM »
Below is the latest letter sent off on this topic.  Let us hope that it will be printed.


April 21, 2010

Linn County News

Letter to the Editor

Dear Editor:

On February 1, 2010, I was sitting at home listening to my scanner.  A call came in for an emergency response near Centerville.  A female had lost control of her vehicle and slipped off the road.  She was unable to exit her car and it was still sliding down an embankment.    Later on this day a Ferrel Propane truck went off the road.       

Days later, I was informed that the firefighter and first responder Larry Thompson was handcuffed and ticketed by a Sheriffs officer.  This happened in plain sight of the victim and other volunteer firefighters before the accident scene was cleared.  Where is the common sense in this? 

Time was of the essence in this accident and response time was quicker by Mr. Thompson's ability to respond with his personally owned vehicle.  The Sherrif Deputy demanded proof of an Emergency Vehicle Permit as the firefighters personally owned vehicle displayed a red light with no siren at the scene.

A portion of Kansas State Statue 8-2010 states:  "The designation shall be in writing and the written designation shall be carried in the vehicle at all times, but failure to carry the written designation shall not affect the status of the vehicle as an authorized emergency vehicle."

It is a fact that Larry Thompson had been legally issued an emergency vehicle permit.  A portion of the Linn County Commissioners Minutes meeting of June 5, 2000, copied and pasted reads:  "Marty Read motioned to approve an emergency vehicle permit for Larry Thompson, Centerville Fire Department. Herb Pemberton seconded the motion. The motion passed 2-0."  Kansas State Law, 8-2010a, authorizes County Commissioners the authority to issue such permits.  I found no mention of any subsequent County Commissioners rescinding his permit. 

There is no expiration date placed within this law as long as the ownership of the vehicle remains unchanged, and the use of the vehicle for authorized emergency use does not change.  This was the case until after this incident, when Mr. Thompson left his fire gear at the scene after being handcuffed.

There is also the possibility that the Sheriff Deputy that interrupted the fire scene on this occasion could possibly be culpable, as it is unlawful to interfer with a firefighter while engaged in the performance of his duties.  KSA 21-3416, Chapter 21.--CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS, PART II.--PROHIBITED CONDUCT, Article 34.--CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS

You can find the statue's mentioned in completion at: http://www.kslegislature.org/legsrv-statutes/index.do

Larry Thompson pled innocent and his first appearance court date was originally set for March 29.  This appearance was postponed until today, April 21.  All charges were dismissed, yet Mr. Thompson was responsible for court costs in the amount of $93.50 and his attorney fees.  How many of us have would have the financial resources to amass continuing attorney fees when falsely accused? 

Linn County was the true loser as they have lost an experienced volunteer firefighter.   

Glenda